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Has anybody here thought about using the 12v heater blower assembly in the engine compartment as sort of a ( turbo, supercharger,Vortex ) to force more air into the carb via a duct hose?

Or set it up to where you can put a flat fram filter were the heater core used to be so the blower motor could pull in clean fresh air and hook the other end to the carb or air cleaner, and control the whole thing with a switch from inside the cab?


More air to an engine equals more power? Could this setup save fuel?

Anyway that heater blower motor in our trucks are excellent for blowing air.

What do you guys think?:hmm:

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i have seen someone hook up a leaf blower up to a mustang in a magazine. somthing tells me your not going to get enough volume out of it to make any real power. it may make a litte more i guess but it might not pull air through it right either. remember turbo and blowers have pop off valves to make sure the boost is bleed off . turbo also have wastgates. also they work with the motor rpm. blowers off the belt and turbos off exhast. how would you contol the air from idle to full thorttle? thats the biggest problem i see with it. you would need a electric motor that would speed up and down for the engine to run right, i have a single turbo charge truck and my buddy have a twin turbo 65 fastback. there alot of things you need to do to make them work right and perform.
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A while back somebody was selling specially made electric turbo's on ebay. I don't remember most of the specifics, but they clamed 4-6 pounds of boost. Don't see them anymore though, must not of had many takers.
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A good ram-air setup will make more power than the old blower motor. I read somewhere that a dual 4 inch duct setup would make about 2 pounds at 25mph if the ductwork is long enough and the air cleaner housing is set up to hold the proper volume of air. It was up to 3 pounds at 100mph. I can't remember what the specifics were though. The guy's calculations were pretty sound...sound enough to convince me to do it when I finish my build.
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I tried something like that on my Mom's '63 Falcon when I was around 14 years old. Took our Sears shop-vac and ducted the blower end to the air cleaner snorkel, all it did was kill the motor.

Hey, at least I didn't try to use it to syphon gas.
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a ram air induction will not make any boost. its call boost for a reason. the induction system need to be pressurized. must turbo cars only build 4 to 6 pounds of boost and that runing off the exahast presure thats being compressed. feel of air coming out you exhast at an idle. thats going down your engine at idle doesn't build any boost even being compressed through a blower or turbo. my buddies car at 4 pounds blow off some induction pipes. thats with the tube rolled with a bead. he had to go back and get bigger clamps. a carb set can work but has to be set up to handle the boost and needs to be pressurized and sealed up tight.
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A heater blower won't compress air, the fan will cavitate first.

If you got something that will compress air and deliver the volume, the carb. would have to be reworked for a blow-thru system. Otherwise it would push the fuel out of the bowls. Fuel injection makes it a whole lot easier.
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if you want to go super fast just get a compressor for an air bags set out. put the hose down the carb and flip the switch. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
all it takes is more air right!!!!!!! you don't need anymore fuel. i would wonder how long it would take to go boom.

hey 68F250
how long did the car run? and did you tell your mom? maybe we should tell the imports guys to try it.
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An engine pulls in more air under NA conditions than an air blower can blow. The engine would actaully lose power. Not to mention the possibilty of it coming apart and sending junk into your engine. The rate at which the electic fan would have to spin to actually create pressure would be insane :lol:
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customcrewcab wrote:hey 68F250
how long did the car run? and did you tell your mom? maybe we should tell the imports guys to try it.
It would die as soon as the hose was butted up to the snorkel. I could tell that it was pushing in more air than the engine was drawing.

Tell my Mom? Heck no! :shh: I can't count how many trial-and-error experiments I did back then, like trying to run a Briggs & Stratton on baking soda and vinegar.
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:lolprev:
Sounds like we both had the same kind of childhoods!
I was always pulling stunts like that, too!
I hope it's not a genetic predisposition>
I have a son. :hmm:
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Thanks for your opinions and expirences it really cleared things up. :thup:
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hey
if you want you could use this, i paid 12 for the little one and about 35 for the big one. should get 6 to 8 pounds out of the small one. maybe 30 plus out of the big one. :shh: :P :P :P :P :P
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Wow!!! Get Outta Here!!!! Really!!!!!!!! :lol:
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Hey custom crew, did your buddy have his boost gauge hooked up right? My old turbo diesel mercedes ran 14 pounds of boost stock, 25 after the wastegate spring was re-worked and I never blew an intake line or induction hose in 30,000 miles. Even took a couple of trips down KCIR, ran a mighty impressive 18.5 for a 4200 pound car with a 3.0 diesel.
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