Pwr supply to in dash harness from solenoid harness

[FreakysFords]

Just replaced the harness in my 69 Ranger with another from a 69 Ranger.

I know there are likely to options differences and I'm now aware that you could have spade and bullet type ign sw connectors.

What I'm wondering about is the PWR supply side.

On the RT side, the underhood harness connects to the in dash harness via 3 connectors. Red, Yellow and Blk.
With the original harness, the black connector had only 2 wires. The large one being the primary PWR supply.
On the replacement, the black connector is only a 3 pole and neither wire is as heavy as that of the 3 wire connector.

What I'm wondering about:

With the 3 'pin' black connector harness, where does the primary feed run? Any chance it could be on either the red or yellow connector? My assumption thus far is that it's in the same location and that the extra wire (small red) on the 'new' harness is an option(?).

The problem that I'm having is that I have no pwr in dash.

With the "new" RT side harness on the matching in dash harness, there is no pwr (this is WITHOUT the alt / reg harness tagged onto the end of it). The large eyelet that goes to the batt side of the solenoid has two small gauge wires. (On the original there were 2 heavy gauge wires to the one eyelet). Does this thing make the primary pwr connection via the alt / reg harness? My thoughts are that it does. If that's so (which by poor memory I think it is) then I could easily rig something up for the time being to supply voltage till I can either get a G3 alt or rip the factory off my 73 for a temp.

The Ranger has a chevy alt on it that is NOT a 1 wire but that someone tried to make a one wire out of. Long story short, it draws current any time the battery's connected. It's not a worry, but that's why I have no good harness to compare.

I've got the 'solenoid harness' from the original setup and if needed I can rip into it and chase their bypass of the charge circuit.

I tried the original solenoid harness to the 'new' under dash harness ignoring the small red wire in the black connector and using the 2 'pin' into the 4 'pin' at the point of the other 2 wires. No luck with this.

[fordman]

i know that you can't mix and match the harnesses. they have to be of the same harness to get power through them. one of the reasons is the alt guages in the dash. the harness i sent you worked with guages in the cluster. that connector that broke on me just needs an end on it to make the thing hook up correctly. i was looking at another harness i have here that i think is the same. it has the large black wire with yellow stripe running through the red connector. the small red wire might be for the alt guage or dash lights. i can't picture whihc wire your talking about at the moment. can you take a pic of what you have hooke dup on that side. i know that one wire that was cut behind the fuseable link may have been cut becuase that fuseable link blew out. that is why it was tied into the bottom after the fuseable link. i will look again at the pics i sent you and see if i can find that red wire.

[FreakysFords]

i know that you can't mix and match the harnesses. they have to be of the same harness to get power through them. one of the reasons is the alt guages in the dash. the harness i sent you worked with guages in the cluster. that connector that broke on me just needs an end on it to make the thing hook up correctly. i was looking at another harness i have here that i think is the same. it has the large black wire with yellow stripe running through the red connector. the small red wire might be for the alt guage or dash lights. i can't picture whihc wire your talking about at the moment. can you take a pic of what you have hooke dup on that side. i know that one wire that was cut behind the fuseable link may have been cut becuase that fuseable link blew out. that is why it was tied into the bottom after the fuseable link. i will look again at the pics i sent you and see if i can find that red wire.

The harness you sent is fine. I'm just looking to hack my already hacked right side underhood harness sans alt harness to work with what you sent so I can retain the good right side underhood harness you sent for my G3 conversion.

I think though that I'm just going to rip the alt and reg from my 73 and use the complete harness I got from fordman to get things up and going. Then once I have all my systems working I can tackle the G3 alternator. I do have an alternator and regulator with the 76 parts truck, but they were in the pass floor board rather than mounted on the truck.

DUH! all I need to do is hook the 76 alt and reg up long enough to KOEO (key on engine off) and see if the alt is magnetized. Heh duh is me.

[Thunderfoot]

Does this thing make the primary pwr connection via the alt / reg harness?

[FreakysFords]

Thanks

I should have gotten back on last night but didn't. I ended up looping a section of the hacked up harness, splicing in a matching connector for the 69 (my factory one was cut and tossed I guess and I didn't want to hack the "new" one) and plugging it into the alt connector to make an additional connection @ the solenoid. Problem solved.

I've got a few small bugs to work out and then I'll lose the chevy alt and all will be well in the world (well, save for that tapping that started yesterday!).

Thanks yall!

And thanks for the deal fordman!

[fordman]

no problem it was goign to come out of that truck anyway. i was just using it my 67 for temporary anyway.

[FreakysFords]

BTW
I'm sure it's already well known, but I'll put it in writing anyway. Fordman is a standup guy. Though it wasn't an issue for me anyway, when he realized something wasn't as he'd thought it was, he immediately let me know, provided FULL details and offered to refund my payment. Like I said, it wasn't an issue to begin with. I was doing a custom install anyway so the small areas weren't going to be a problem. A good online community brings out good people.

Thanks again,
Frank

[fordman]

thank you for the kind words.