my gas pedal: help/advice needed

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my gas pedal: help/advice needed

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so guys, i don't know what your opinion is of lmc trucks. so far i think their parts are crap. for example i bought a fuel filter housing from them and their fuel filter gasket was garbage and was not an exact fit. thank goodness i had a old filter lying around from the 70s still in the box from when i towed the truck back, swapped the old gasket in, fit perfect, and gas flowed once again. also not a big fan of their cowl weather stripping. also not a big fan of their gas pedal or spring. you see here's my problem. I bought a new pedal from them and the spring thing and the gas pedal screw, thinking these would be copies of the original parts. of course they aren't because nobody makes stuff like they used to. here's a picture of the junk.
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the aftermarket pedals backside in noway resembles the plastic molding of the original. When i towed my truck down here I didn't have the gas pedal pad on, and i'm assuming that it broke off anywho as i could not find the screw or the wire spring thing that attaches, the core reason why i bought replacements. I'm trying to install these things and can't articulate how they could possibly go together. I see that the screw goes through the pedal into the linkage of course, but how is the spring supposed to install? and do i need a special nut to go on this special pedal screw? and can this aftermarket crap even be used on my truck? is it some kind of aftermarket joke like many of the other aftermarket "oem replacement" wannabes? any advice, drawings step by step directions appreciated to get this thing to work. I have semi moderate modification skills if need be, just don't know where to start
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here is what looks like a 73-79 type. the reason i say it may be a 73-79 is the pedal is plastic and not rubber covered. but the spring is pretty close to what and original looks like. maybe this will help. i do have one more pedal out in the garage that may be an original. too. i can get a pic of it if this pic doesnt help.
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thanks. if you could provide some more pictures that would be great. they are aftermarket from lmc and do not resemble the original stuff. I have a 72 f100 by the way. I still have the original gas pedal pad but that's the only part i have, don't have the spring wire or the screw or a nut to keep the screw in as far as the originals. Everything I have is a replacement part, aftermarket spring wire, aftermarket pad, screw, and found this nut i thought i would need. I will take more pictures of my parts tomorrow to better show what i'm working with
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here is the other one. it didnt have the spring on it either. but from what i remember the spring is almost the same as the one in the first pictures. the screw goes and threads into main rod of the gas pedal . a regular screw could probably be used. the spring then hooks to the pedal as in the first picture. and then wraps around the bolt are and is a z type of deal heading up to the top back of the gas pedal. edit after looking at your spring. i think it is the correct spring now.
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here is the original screw. http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll ... Z50000024D

here is a close looking gas pedal spring. but that is not what i remember them looking like. yours looks closer to original. http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll ... Z50000024D
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thanks for the advice and the pictures it has helped me figure this one out. i can't offer any pictures today as a family member needed to travel with the camera. I have compared the two pedals and they definitely are not the same. lmc has a wider bracket on theirs and it is also in a different location, making the pedal higher in location on the linkage than a oem part. also the aftermarket pedal from lmc does not have the casting framed boxes on the rear, it is simply a flat plane on metal with a small rubber nub sticking out one side that is non functional to anything like as a bracing surface to guide the spring. here's what i ended up doing to ensure my spring wouldn't pop out because it certainly would on the aftermarket pedal without any modification. I chose to use the hook side of the spring to press against the linkage. I used the L side of the spring and siliconed the entire first kink of the spring to the top of the back side of the pedal, running a bead of silicone along the entire length of the top and placing the entire first kink length of the L side of the spring into that. Since the bracket is much wider and not in the same location, my spring will run inside of the bracket rather than the outside as they were originally designed, hooking on the screw as it protrudes from the other side of the bracket. Mine will loop around the screw inside the bracket. This will also help ensure that it does not pop out. I held a shoe up to the linkage to see how the offset higher raised pedal would feel and it appears that the pedal shouldn't inconvenience the driver too much, i would estimate that it is about a inch higher and a half inch to the side difference. I could have used the original since I still have the original pedal but i already spent money on the aftermarket piece. the silicone is drying in the basement so i'm going to get a bite to eat and then install this. Thanks guys. Also I hope this helps anyone wanting to buy a pedal and spring from LMC. It is my thought that the spring from LMC might only work with their aftermarket pedal but I'm not sure b/c I don't know what the other springs from other companys look like or what the original spring is supposed to look like. For originality these pieces from LMC get a thumbs down, again. I will post a picture of the pedal installed as soon as i can in this post to give people a understanding of what they might encounter with these parts. thanks folks.
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I bought the same pedal. The issue I had is that there was not any holes in the top of the back of the pedal for the spring to go in. I poked it in the rubber on the edge of the pedal after I drilled a little hole in it. Then I had to build up the back of the pedal where it touches the accelerator lever. After that, it looks and works perfectly. I don't mind that I only paid 3 or 4 bucks.
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