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O.K., help a brother out.

I'm on my second set of stainless steel brake lines. I ordered the wrong set the first time, but the right set has the same problem as the first ones (I accidently ordered disc brake ones)

My truck is a 72 long bed with power drums, and the problem is that the front frame to porp valve lines are too short like the poportioning valve is supposed to be mounted near the cross member, but mine is mounted to the driver frame rail behind the steering box and about even with the firewall.

:hmm:

Anyone think I should try a set for a 71?

Is my truck just an odd ball?
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DON'T get me to lying. I ordered brake lines mail order, got the wrong ones. sent them back for credit, went to my local parts place, ordered "the" lines listed for the 72 f-250 /c power drums, got the wrong ones again. had the parts place order every freakin' break line available for a 72 model truck, had to pick and choose, but they were all there. this was at an oreillys, they have no problem on the returns.... well, if they did, they didn't tell me. :shh:
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When you're talking with the sales reps, are you calling it a 'proportioning valve'? Maybe that's what's throwing them. Drum brake systems don't have a proportioning valve, just a distribution block, and every truck I've ever parted out had it on the driver's-side framerail immediately behind the front crossmember. Just a thought...

The '79 truck I parted out for the disc brake setup for my truck did have the proportioning valve located on the backside of the front crossmember. The '75 truck had it inline immediately under the master cylinder.
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I just order them from the catalog, intrestingly enough, they list a differant part number for virtually every year.

My distribution block is behind the steering box and the two front lines route behind the box in a channel in the frame to it.
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DuckRyder wrote:My distribution block is behind the steering box and the two front lines route behind the box in a channel in the frame to it.
Like this, right?

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Yes, but for these lines to work, it would have to be about where the clamp on the cross member is at.

I also looked to see if there was a connector pipe of some sort and there is not.

See the problem?

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DuckRyder wrote:Yes, but for these lines to work, it would have to be about where the clamp on the cross member is at.
That would be exactly where the proportioning valve on the '79 F-150s would be. I'm betting you just got the wrong year of lines.
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Seems unlikely that these two lines would be the exact same incorrect ones twice.

:hmm:

I guess I'll have to get on the phone on Monday if I'm not headed back for Florida.

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O.K. Looked at the catalog again, the listing is as follows:

67-70
71
72

So the question becomes, what was changed in 71, and what was changed in 72?
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Did a little checking.

The lines are made by inline tube. The part number is listed as correct for a 1972 Long Bed with power drums.

I've E-Mailed them with a question and included alink to here for pictures.

We will see what they say.
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Talked with Tom at inline tube who said send him the old ones and he will fix it. Problem is who knows when I'll be home to pull the rest of them and send them.

Since I'm in Florida and surprisingly enough had a day off today I rode up to NPD and spoke to a very understanding counter man who pulled the 1967-70 and the 71 line sets. Neither of them looked correct either. (in fact, I think the ones I have are closer)

I have no idea why it should have so much variation, since it appears that all of them should be the same.

Oh well, guess I'll deal with it when I get home.
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Yeah, that's confusing to me too....I have no idea why they'd be different. Definitely keep us up-to-date...I'd like to know what you find out.
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Just following up on this...what did you figure out? Did you get the correct lines?
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What's wrong with bending and connecting lengths from the auto parts store? Alternatively, is it worth custom cutting, bending and double flaring?

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Thanks! I'll check it out. You must have a very understanding family. You're doing so much for those of us who are working to keep these American icons alive and strong. I'll look at what others have done on the welcome mat. I've followed you since Oldsmobility.

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